{"id":5542,"date":"2022-10-06T09:58:05","date_gmt":"2022-10-06T13:58:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/?p=5542"},"modified":"2022-10-06T10:07:13","modified_gmt":"2022-10-06T14:07:13","slug":"democrats-are-for-war-with-russia-over-ukraine-even-if-it-results-in-nuclear-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/?p=5542","title":{"rendered":"Democrats Are for War with Russia Over Ukraine Even if it Results in Nuclear War"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Last week, <em>Morgan County USA<\/em> came out <a href=\"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/?p=5513\">strongly against the war with Russia over Ukraine <\/a>and called for an anti-war movement right here in Berkeley Springs, Morgan County and West Virginia.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/pope.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/pope.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5543\" width=\"219\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/pope.jpg 640w, https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/pope-209x300.jpg 209w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 219px) 100vw, 219px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Pope Francis<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>The response from liberal Democrats around in Morgan County was overwhelmingly pro-war \u2013 even if it results in nuclear war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cFor the first time in the two and a half years I\u2019ve been talking to you and reading your newsletter, I must tell you that I believe you are completely wrong-headed about this,\u201d one wrote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cPutin and the rest of the thugs who control Russia launched a bare-faced war of aggression. Agreeing to let him bite off part of Ukraine accomplishes nothing positive, and on the negative will possibly encourage him to continue his malign activities.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI do agree with you that we are risking war with Russia, but unfortunately that is the possible price of trying to maintain democracy. As you know from our previous interactions, I\u2019m not a war hawk at all, but in this case risking a war \u2013 yes, even a nuclear war \u2013 is a bad choice, but the alternative is even worse.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYes, even a nuclear war.\u201d (We are not naming names to protect the innocent.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Last week, we wrote \u2013 \u201cTime to put aside our differences and come together in Berkeley Springs, in Morgan County and in West Virginia and say to those fueling the fire \u2013 time to negotiate, no war with Russia.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In response to that, another Democrat wrote us saying \u2013 \u201cI disagree. Russia needs to rise up and get rid of Putin. In the meantime, the world needs to convince them to do so.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThis piece reads like Putin propaganda,\u201d a third liberal Democrat wrote. \u201cRussia was the aggressor against a smaller neighbor. Russia has been making war on civilians and residential areas, not military targets. It has committed atrocities in the areas it occupied. It is trying to annex occupied land within Ukraine&#8217;s internationally recognized boundaries. Putin himself has been clear about his genocidal aims and last for territory. He is a fascist dictator out of touch with reality. If not stopped \u2013 decisively \u2013 he will do it again. You can not trust or negotiate with someone like that except from a position of strength. Didn\u2019t we learn anything from Chamberlain&#8217;s accommodation to Hitler?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOf course the U.S., Biden and Congress should support the legitimate self-defense of Ukraine and the restoration of their land Russia unlawfully took by force, including Crimea. We should not bargain away someone else&#8217;s land, freedom and sovereignty to a bully dictator and an oppressive regime. And we should not allow Putin to bully us and the rest of the world with his nuclear threats.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhy do you want us to cave to a bully? Where does that end? I truly don\u2019t understand the infatuation of Tucker Carlson and others with Putin \u2013 or the willingness to be manipulated by him for his propaganda.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I ran this dispute by a very close relative, thinking we were on the same page.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNo,\u201d he said, \u201cI\u2019m sorry we disagree.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He also suggested covert operations inside Russia to get rid of Putin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, I got an email from a liberal Democrat in Berkeley Springs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cVladimir Putin is a murderous, lying thief,\u201d he wrote. \u201cHe regularly kills journalists, dissidents, political opponents, and members of his kleptocracy who refuse to do his bidding, both at home and abroad. How does one negotiate with an extortionist?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNegotiate with your enemy, not with your friends,\u201d I answered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cGreat. Let\u2019s send Henry Kissinger to do that. They are both war criminals,\u201d he responded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAs is Biden,\u201d I answered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The liberal Democrats are going into an election year supporting a war Party and a war President. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We stand with Pope Francis <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/angelus\/2022\/documents\/20221002-angelus.html\">who on October 2 issued a call<\/a> for a cease fire and negotiations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhat is to happen next?\u201d the Pope asked. \u201cHow much blood must still flow for us to realize that war is never a solution, only destruction? In the name of God and in the name of the sense of humanity that dwells in every heart, I renew my call for an immediate ceasefire. Let there be a halt to arms, and let us seek the conditions for negotiations that will lead to solutions that are not imposed by force, but consensual, just and stable. And they will be so if they are based on respect for the sacrosanct value of human life, as well as the sovereignty and territorial integrity of each country, and the rights of minorities and legitimate concerns.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI urge all the protagonists of international life and the political leaders of nations to do everything possible to bring an end to the war, without allowing themselves to be drawn into dangerous escalations, and to promote and support initiatives for dialogue,\u201d Pope Francis said. \u201cPlease let the younger generations breathe the salutary air of peace, not the polluted air of war, which is madness.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAfter seven months of hostilities, let us use all diplomatic means, even those that may not have been used so far, to bring an end to this terrible tragedy. War in itself is an error and a horror.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, Morgan County USA came out strongly against the war with Russia over Ukraine and called for an anti-war movement right here in Berkeley Springs, Morgan County and West Virginia. The response from liberal Democrats around in Morgan County &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/?p=5542\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5542","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5542","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5542"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5542\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5545,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5542\/revisions\/5545"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5542"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5542"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/morgancountyusa.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5542"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}